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Title: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on October 11, 2005, 06:10:44 PM
SZUKAM INFORNACJI O POLSKIEJ LANCII STRATOS, 125P, POLONEZ RAJDOWA WERSJA, ZDJECIA, INFORMACJE I CZESCI JAKIE TYLKO ZNAJDZIECIE.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on November 21, 2005, 08:01:09 PM
If you want see more photo of polisch rally car visit this page
http://www.fsoautoklub.pl/index.php?action=photos&TopicID=sport
http://www.fsoautoklub.pl/index.php?action=photos&TopicID=sport_2
http://www.fsoautoklub.pl/index.php?action=photos&TopicID=sport_3
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on November 22, 2005, 08:48:13 AM
many thanks ,the only missing photos are the stratos ,,where can  whe see them???
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on November 23, 2005, 06:39:16 PM
http://stratopolonez.pl/gal/galeria.php  on  this page You can see the photos of polisch lancia stratos. You can also see the photos of stratopolonez this car was built from polisch lancia stratos and fso polonez. This car now is renowate. http://stratopolonez.pl this  page is only about stratopolonez.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on November 24, 2005, 02:40:14 PM
I must say that i am very happy with this info and I did almost a misstake with painting of the stratos .I hoop  that I see good that the rear louvres are  black and not white like I was thinking before  our is it also Red like the body ????? many thanks for nice info
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on November 25, 2005, 10:02:27 PM
rear louvres are this part of cars which I mark on picture??(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7458/c23uy.th.jpg) (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c23uy.jpg)
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on November 27, 2005, 06:32:56 PM
yes
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 05, 2005, 09:13:00 PM
Sorry, but I didn't found information about color of rear louvres( I think  that rear louvres was black but I can make mistake)
I have one question, Do You search information about another polisch rally cars like polonez and polisch fiat 125p??
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 06, 2005, 08:41:32 AM
yes I do ,because I make one 125 P and one polonez to
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: stratos p on December 06, 2005, 05:12:04 PM
I know what was a color of rear louvres.
It was grey.
I talk with friend who know about polish lancia stratos everything, and he talk to me: "If you told me early about color I give you a orginal parts with orginal paintwork".
I will be talk with him on Sunday, and maybe I do a photos.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 06, 2005, 05:19:28 PM
not mayby sure please  (sorry is not nice to say that) So tray it  and he can always send the original part I will buy it
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: stratos p on December 06, 2005, 05:38:09 PM
not mayby sure please  (sorry is not nice to say that) So tray it  and he can always send the original part I will buy it

ok no problem.
I thing this Lancia or parts are not for sale, because he want to fix this car. I ask him which parts can sell.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 07, 2005, 12:07:30 AM
From which years do You want make fiat 125p rally and polonez rally?
I ask becouse were many types of 125p rally(125p 1500 rally, 125p acropolis, 125p monte carlo) and polonez rally(polonez 2000 gr.IV, polonez 2000 gr.II, polonez 2000 gr.B, polonez 2000 turbo, polonez 1600 gr.A and polonez 1500 turbo gr.A).
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 07, 2005, 12:18:10 AM
125p  acropolis ,monte carlo (fiat twin cam engines)     polonez  2000 gr 4    gr2        2000 turbo
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 07, 2005, 07:16:19 PM
This is a list of number international homologation FSO POLONEZ
FSO Polonez 2000     Nr 657       01.01.1979    G IV
FSO Polonez 2000     Nr 1704     01.04.1980    Gr II
FSO Polonez 2000 C Nr 261       01.04.1984    GrB
FSO Polonez 1.6C      Nr 5215    01.04.1984     GrA (this polonez was homologat as FSO 125 PN/C)
Polonez 2000 trubo didn't have a international homologaion becouse fso made one this car. Fso polonez 2000 turbo started only in poland

Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 07, 2005, 07:46:46 PM
http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1982wisla0011kw.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=polonezturbo7qv.jpg
On this photos You can see a polonez 2000 turbo. This polonez was make on polonez coupe.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 07, 2005, 08:02:33 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92dd6sf.jpg On this photo is polonez gr IV
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 07, 2005, 08:05:03 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1983polski0025hg.jpg this is polonez 2000 grII
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 07, 2005, 08:13:39 PM
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1984polski0012le.jpg On this photo you can see polonez 2000 gr. B in first painting.
http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1986wisla0033mq.jpgon this photo is polonez gr.B in secend painting
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 07, 2005, 08:57:25 PM
If You have a question, ask me I try anserw.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 07, 2005, 10:42:10 PM
the oldest one is the gr4' is this  correct?I wish that I fond still some wheels like that.Also whatI dont have are the wingextentions,is this possible to find ?Many thanks for photos
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 07, 2005, 11:40:28 PM
Which  of grup do You ask me?
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 08, 2005, 08:46:58 AM
groep 4    car  sorry ,not a computer specialist
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 08, 2005, 12:31:26 PM
On begining Polonez 2000 started in gr IV, since 1980 started in gr II and since 1984 started in gr B.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 08, 2005, 12:36:15 PM
From which group do You want make a polonez 2000?
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 08, 2005, 01:29:19 PM
groep IV  (4)
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 08, 2005, 03:56:45 PM
This is all photos whith polonez 2000 gr IV which I have.
http://www.fsoautoklub.pl/index.php?action=photos&RollID=sport&FrameID=58
http://www.fsoautoklub.pl/index.php?action=photos&RollID=sport&FrameID=59
http://www.fsoautoklub.pl/index.php?action=photos&RollID=sport_2&FrameID=01
http://www.fsoautoklub.pl/index.php?action=photos&RollID=sport_2&FrameID=02
http://www.fsoautoklub.pl/index.php?action=photos&RollID=sport_2&FrameID=10
http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=433509d0691d3d9ii.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92dd6sf.jpg
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 08, 2005, 04:47:25 PM
http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rallyepolonez6ar.jpg
This is a scan of article about polonez grIV but I don't  know this language.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 08, 2005, 05:31:59 PM
nice photos and that are also the wheels that I look for.The never drive in gr 4 with wingextentions .Can I buy somewhere copys of the homologations ?  GR 2 , gr 4 and others ?
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 08, 2005, 06:03:29 PM
In gr 4 polonez haven't wingextentions.
I don't have a  copy homologation and I don't know  where it can buy.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 08, 2005, 06:13:12 PM
where can I buy the wingextentions  gr 2
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 08, 2005, 10:16:51 PM
In poland nobody make wingextentions. The wingextentions in polonez gr II and polonez gr B was identical.
Do you want the photos with polonez gr.II ?
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: fenix on December 09, 2005, 08:39:30 AM
here you have a replica in original gr.IV colors. With CD30 7" wheels, soon we will put cd39 7&8" ,

making Gr.IV is a good idea, but Gr.II is much more agressive:) I would like to see even 2000turbo...maby some day we will make one:)

good luck Guy! thx for re-creating polish rally history again!

(http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/7352/view16dt.jpg)
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 09, 2005, 08:52:43 AM
yes for gr 2 photos and if I dont find ,whe will make them .I had long time ago the  2000 turbo engine and now it is in the Abarth museum in France
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: fenix on December 09, 2005, 09:19:30 AM
there is for sure two FSO Polonez in Poland with gr.II extensions. owner of them is mr.Zaleski.

(http://www.guy-croft.com/img14950.jpg)

if you will find contact with him, maby he will let you coppy them.
try ask Marek for it, probably they know each other.

If you will I'm definetly interested in two set of them:D

P.S and how much is fiat 125 extensions?

We are planing to make a friend-car for gr.II , in the same painting as gr.II FSO Polonez. Car was owned by Adam Polak. I think it would be nice to see FSO Polonez and Polski Fiat 125p in same FSO Team paintings  in a row :)

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6840/16qf.th.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16qf.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8924/27qp.th.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27qp.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/502/39hj1.th.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=39hj1.jpg)
p.s photos taken from www.fsoautoklub.pl - copyrighted
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: orzech on December 09, 2005, 08:09:21 PM
Polonez Mr Zalewski is the polonez grB.
On this photos are 125p racing, this 125p are not rally.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 14, 2005, 12:04:46 PM
progress and its not OBRSO BUT GMR
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: fenix on December 14, 2005, 12:15:17 PM
"Impresive! .......Most impresive!" - like saind Lrd.Vader once :)

So lets count:
-you have 124 Polish Rally
-you have Polonez ( or will have )
-you have 125 rally ( or you are going to have )'

now you are remaking Startos Polish Rally team , so only thing you need to complet is to have your own Polski Fiat 126p from Polish Rally Team :) Maby we could halp You with that?

Your colection geting dya,by day more complet.

best regards.
jakub
fenix
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 14, 2005, 12:23:45 PM
polonez     2000 cc  I HAVE  (in production in Warchaw))                125p   1800 cc      I HAVE    (in production  here)      I have not yet ,but  one remake fiat abarth 126  on base off one of latest  126p(84=no rust)  The Polish cars where in Belguim rally off Ieper no photos from them fond yet
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 16, 2005, 10:19:49 AM
see how it looks now
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: stratos p on December 16, 2005, 01:39:56 PM
see how it looks now

You are amazing. This is incredible, it's look like oryginal :):):).  And this inscription "OBRSO" respect.
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on December 17, 2005, 12:04:56 AM
thanks, I tray to do my best and it always nice that you have a return
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on February 10, 2006, 10:14:59 AM
some electronic conection ,new shocks on rear and it goos
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on March 28, 2006, 11:20:24 PM
I dont think you have seen this photo from the stratopolish
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: winiar7 on May 09, 2006, 10:32:04 PM
(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6994/dsc008771il.jpg)
And here is another one also preparing Polonez
The car now is fit with 1600 OHV Gr A engine Small Colotti gearbox and Lock diff Colotti T.239 with 4,55
Suspension is Bilstein and Sachs
Brakes gr B ATE from Porshe 912
I've also have a 125p rally bodywork ex. K Godwod
and same spares to Lancia Stratos
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on May 16, 2008, 11:19:23 AM
http://www.abarth-gmr.be/forum/index.php/topic,2520.0.html  what do you think of it ?
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on May 16, 2008, 11:20:36 AM
I have now the wingextentions group 2 for sale http://www.abarth-gmr.be/forum/index.php/topic,2520.0.html
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on April 01, 2010, 10:59:22 AM
looking for photos from the FSO service 125p to rebuild this type
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on April 04, 2010, 07:32:46 PM
fso sport and  polski fiat sport
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on August 14, 2011, 12:05:57 PM
need info about decals and stickers about the Fiat 124 abarth that was driving in 1975 for making a scale model 1/43  hope you can help ???????


Rally Warszawski 1975 - #2 A.Jaroszewicz / R.Zyszkowski

car is now in "abarth works museum"
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: Pawel Sokolowski on August 24, 2011, 04:38:45 PM
just few photos for Guy collection, we are still working on stickers ;)
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on August 24, 2011, 04:44:08 PM
ok thanks
Title: Re: INFORMACJE O POLSKICH RAJDOWYCH SAMOCHODACH
Post by: guy moerenhout on June 06, 2012, 11:49:18 AM
Looking for homolgation papers  for Polski Fiat  125p  with the Fiat 1600 cc twin cam engine +-1972
Thanks for help