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cars in museum => Moskvitch 2140 Rally => : guy moerenhout July 06, 2013, 04:28:25 PM

: MOSKVITCH Rally
: guy moerenhout July 06, 2013, 04:28:25 PM
Scaldia Moskvitch 2140 model Rally car ,that is what we wish to build from this car . Drives good ,looks not bad and the are not many anymore.
Looking for intake manifolfd for 2 weberslike the old group 2  car
Engine  looks good on a old  BMW 1500 engine and turn even good .
Yes its something special
: Re: MOSKVITCH Rally
: guy moerenhout July 16, 2013, 02:34:31 PM
did  you now it have  4 pistons dixs brakes on front ?
: Re: MOSKVITCH Rally
: Edgar_mg July 25, 2013, 10:22:56 AM
Brakes are made under license by Girling :)

This is not Moskvitch-412, this is Moskvitch-2140.
I have already talked about this car in the relevant thread
Moskvitch 412 rallye:
(http://s23.postimg.org/s59nbwu7b/6855.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/s59nbwu7b/) (http://s23.postimg.org/jvxrxi0h3/w_1af98128.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/jvxrxi0h3/) (http://s23.postimg.org/v0mqiry7b/w_41b8e04b.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/v0mqiry7b/) (http://s23.postimg.org/p5xoroeef/y_61a18631.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/p5xoroeef/) (http://s23.postimg.org/6uc37nc2v/z_17641087.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6uc37nc2v/)

Moskvitch 1600 rallye (or 2140, 1976 year)
(http://s9.postimg.org/ufl2g3f8b/329160.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ufl2g3f8b/) (http://s9.postimg.org/elarjyfvf/454545.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/elarjyfvf/) (http://s9.postimg.org/utmefozbv/rally_volan_81.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/utmefozbv/) (http://s9.postimg.org/m003cc1qz/vozvr_03_03.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/m003cc1qz/)

Moskvitch 1600 SL Rallye or AZLK 1600 SL RALLYE (1983 year):
(http://s10.postimg.org/j5f5s7k7p/2140_SL_Rallye_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/j5f5s7k7p/) (http://s10.postimg.org/i1qg2ia6t/67227.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/i1qg2ia6t/) (http://s10.postimg.org/9ed8ohwd1/550162897.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9ed8ohwd1/) (http://s10.postimg.org/bzitc0lqt/jyska286.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bzitc0lqt/) (http://s10.postimg.org/4489x7c45/n8v_XPLTg_b_E.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4489x7c45/) (http://s10.postimg.org/4i9lwsw7p/phpie_Fq_P71306007222.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4i9lwsw7p/)
: Re: MOSKVITCH Rally
: Edgar_mg July 25, 2013, 10:40:42 AM
Engine  looks good on a old  BMW 1500 engine and turn even good
The engine looks like a BMW, but not a copy. –°enter distance between cylinders - 105mm, wet cylinder liners.
For this engine can get sports camshafts, adapter plate for using LADA/FIAT gearbox.
(http://s23.postimg.org/gwhoiwc87/ceb2e5u_960.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gwhoiwc87/) (http://s23.postimg.org/5iv57p1pj/f310388s_960.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5iv57p1pj/)

: Re: MOSKVITCH Rally
: guy moerenhout July 25, 2013, 10:46:39 AM
fantastic ,I see that first model have  round lights . I can buy one good one here. Mayby I must do one more for our collection and make him also like this rallycar from Brundza ?
Good for Safari collection

Is this blue  one a good model for it ??
: Re: MOSKVITCH Rally
: Edgar_mg July 25, 2013, 12:19:19 PM
Photo is too small. But it is likely Moskvich 408. There's 1,360 cc weak  OHV engine.
A little history Moskvich:
Moskvich 412 was manufactured in two plants, and the cars were different in appearance.

Moskvich 412 from AZLK factory, Moscow had only a hexagonal lights with chrome grille:
(http://s24.postimg.org/qsitcdm35/1972_voitoissa_karaistu11111.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qsitcdm35/) (http://s24.postimg.org/vomg42m8h/1973_3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vomg42m8h/) (http://s24.postimg.org/5wwj14pw1/1973_41.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5wwj14pw1/) (http://s24.postimg.org/ty3f2l4pd/32078100_web.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ty3f2l4pd/)

Moskvich 412 from IZH factory, Izevsk had a 2 variants
 a hexagonal lights with black or chrome grille:
(http://s23.postimg.org/45k1pv087/Q5n_Qdfgf_M.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/45k1pv087/) (http://s23.postimg.org/som3764mf/z_9eb42057.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/som3764mf/) (http://s23.postimg.org/z118h07on/z_9f0617b6.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/z118h07on/) (http://s23.postimg.org/ye6x5806f/z_e6d40c95.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ye6x5806f/)

or round lights with chrome grille, like Moskvitch 408:
(http://s24.postimg.org/cey9mzaq9/IOj_VPed6bk_U.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cey9mzaq9/) (http://s24.postimg.org/xzyqwui35/y_55236a04.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xzyqwui35/) (http://s24.postimg.org/gleiokky9/z_353f0f69.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gleiokky9/) (http://s24.postimg.org/xr5rknuoh/z_48987084.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xr5rknuoh/)

Brundza mainly driven by cars IZH.

Need to look for a car with an engine UZAM-412, which is similar to BMW, Cars with engine MZMA-408 slow and they do not have any sports items.
1) 408 engine
(http://s21.postimg.org/uufisv1fn/6d4c1fu_960.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/uufisv1fn/)
2)412 engine
(http://s12.postimg.org/n99qv1z1l/12616u_960.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/n99qv1z1l/)
: Re: MOSKVITCH Rally
: Edgar_mg July 25, 2013, 12:35:18 PM
If the machine is a combination of round headlights and vertical rear lights - is Moskvich 408. Good old-timer, but no rally car :)
(http://s11.postimg.org/j08p3xkq7/1050px_408_1965_11_20.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/j08p3xkq7/) (http://s11.postimg.org/6a4gqucrz/b82afc8s_960.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6a4gqucrz/)

BUT!!!! very rare to find an early Moskvich 412 1967-1969 years
is a combination of double round headlights and vertical rear lights + 412 Engine
This is a very rare car, it looks like a luxury 408, but with the engine 412.
(http://s18.postimg.org/swmvfjcyd/0_55236_ab98a2ed_orig.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/swmvfjcyd/) (http://s18.postimg.org/p6n8mn13p/1353773053_tarastsuv_gmail_com.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/p6n8mn13p/) (http://s18.postimg.org/lob8q907p/ls0004.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/lob8q907p/) (http://s18.postimg.org/hhqeax0lx/M412sydney_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hhqeax0lx/)
: Re: MOSKVITCH Rally
: guy moerenhout July 25, 2013, 01:41:26 PM
ok ,then I must look for this two typ cars to
: Re: MOSKVITCH Rally
: Edgar_mg July 25, 2013, 01:56:19 PM
For information, homologation papers:
412:
(http://s9.postimg.org/h44bdje1n/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/h44bdje1n/) (http://s9.postimg.org/69i9xv5jv/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/69i9xv5jv/) (http://s9.postimg.org/cbpwoctzv/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cbpwoctzv/)

(http://s9.postimg.org/u31j2t9ej/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/u31j2t9ej/) (http://s9.postimg.org/tu8jqmlzv/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tu8jqmlzv/) (http://s9.postimg.org/ix781uz8b/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ix781uz8b/)

(http://s9.postimg.org/u5q03e2fv/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/u5q03e2fv/) (http://s9.postimg.org/wln83hv4r/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wln83hv4r/) (http://s9.postimg.org/fhf3sb1zv/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/fhf3sb1zv/)

(http://s9.postimg.org/ozeuscnob/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ozeuscnob/) (http://s9.postimg.org/rn4b2pgpn/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rn4b2pgpn/) (http://s9.postimg.org/cskb29wij/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cskb29wij/)

(http://s9.postimg.org/qshrgo8uz/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qshrgo8uz/) (http://s9.postimg.org/ds60k8maj/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ds60k8maj/)

2140 (Moskvitch 1600 Rallye):
(http://s10.postimg.org/pare6v72t/homolog_lapok01.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/pare6v72t/) (http://s10.postimg.org/e4nwefi51/homolog_lapok02.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/e4nwefi51/) (http://s10.postimg.org/5wlytfq8l/homolog_lapok03.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5wlytfq8l/)

(http://s10.postimg.org/d6c4pvu6t/homolog_lapok04.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/d6c4pvu6t/) (http://s10.postimg.org/vkmntv6hh/homolog_lapok05.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vkmntv6hh/) (http://s10.postimg.org/bft3oecnp/homolog_lapok06.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/bft3oecnp/)

(http://s10.postimg.org/xl8m0yd91/homolog_lapok07.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/xl8m0yd91/)

2140SL (AZLK 1600 Rallye):
(http://s16.postimg.org/oucain1tt/homolog_lapok08.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/oucain1tt/) (http://s16.postimg.org/hofy2g3cx/homolog_lapok09.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hofy2g3cx/) (http://s16.postimg.org/l5i05f2f5/homolog_lapok10.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/l5i05f2f5/) (http://s16.postimg.org/72w2qfx1d/homolog_lapok11.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/72w2qfx1d/)

(http://s16.postimg.org/x3jkjb669/homolog_lapok12.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/x3jkjb669/) (http://s16.postimg.org/yjv31g935/homolog_lapok13.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/yjv31g935/) (http://s16.postimg.org/70c73ltdt/homolog_lapok14.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/70c73ltdt/) (http://s16.postimg.org/olepspp1d/homolog_lapok15.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/olepspp1d/)

(http://s16.postimg.org/m2t0s13b5/homolog_lapok16.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/m2t0s13b5/) (http://s16.postimg.org/mr1vaz20x/homolog_lapok17.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/mr1vaz20x/) (http://s16.postimg.org/cfu3w1zpd/homolog_lapok18.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/cfu3w1zpd/) (http://s16.postimg.org/qxmpqb1mp/homolog_lapok19.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qxmpqb1mp/)

(http://s16.postimg.org/5wwo5dy4h/homolog_lapok20.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5wwo5dy4h/) (http://s16.postimg.org/euhe2qqkh/homolog_lapok21.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/euhe2qqkh/) (http://s16.postimg.org/poyu4o9oh/homolog_lapok22.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/poyu4o9oh/) (http://s16.postimg.org/8ppvpeygx/homolog_lapok23.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8ppvpeygx/)

(http://s16.postimg.org/ngp912ry9/homolog_lapok24.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ngp912ry9/) (http://s16.postimg.org/rklmftyip/homolog_lapok25.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rklmftyip/) (http://s16.postimg.org/43p63bnk1/homolog_lapok26.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/43p63bnk1/)
: Re: MOSKVITCH Rally
: guy moerenhout December 21, 2013, 04:03:45 PM
hallo Edgar, have I  now  my 412 in ,its a  red one  so I will do it in blue ,tesame blue like the  original light blue  from  427 servicecar is inside . Do you have mayby this original color no ? 
In wish  color where the factory 408  cars?
Is  it best  our good to do the other 2140 also in same blue .?

Must I fit wingextentions  our not ?