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abarth cars , our in museum => fiat 127 remake 127 abarth => : guy moerenhout May 10, 2007, 08:36:08 AM

: 1050 127 fiat
: guy moerenhout May 10, 2007, 08:36:08 AM
the abarth cars where use in rally and  a sort of gravel/speedway sprint ,mostly in France.The cars where 1050 (brasilia  engine) with overhead camshaft.Double carburators exhaust manifold ,steeringwheel (special for this model),stronger shocks and special wheels four spoke design.The car had a special design on side off car.
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: braca23 May 10, 2007, 11:45:11 AM
Hi there!

Is there any drawings , pictures or written material, which could help to get better idea of that car.

I have found only a few photos of the car in alitalia  colors. I think that car took part in Quebec rally in 1978, unfortunatly without much success.

: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: DaveA May 10, 2007, 11:51:19 PM
is a 127 motor the same as the A112 motor ?

Dave
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: guy moerenhout May 11, 2007, 08:27:28 AM
in most case it was the Brasila engine=1050 with camshaft on top .In Spain see forum there was also a 127 abarth with the A112 70HP engine ,see forum for leaflet
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: viotti600 May 11, 2007, 08:31:40 AM
is a 127 motor the same as the A112 motor ?

 No, like Guy said, tthis 127 1050 engine is not the same as an A112 1050 engine. The 127 1050 is similar to Fiat 128 style (single overhead cam). The A112 1050 is like the Fiat 850 engine (overhead valves/pushrod type).

-JS.

: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: guy moerenhout May 11, 2007, 08:47:04 AM
same engine was in Fiorino ,127,and lancia Y turbo also in 1300 cc in 127 sport
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: DaveA May 11, 2007, 06:05:46 PM
thank you for the information ,

which models of Fiat or Lancia had the 1050cc pushrod motor ?

were these motors only made in Italy ?

thanks

Dave
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: Pantdino May 12, 2007, 05:59:47 AM
I believe the 1050 pushrod motor was only sold in the Autobianchi A112 70HP.   I think there were a bit over 100,000 made.
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: guy moerenhout May 12, 2007, 10:29:59 AM
I some country also in other models like Spain had the 70 HP  in 127  abarth
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: carlosvaz75 May 20, 2007, 06:55:21 PM
Hi!

I have a 127 mk 1, and I want to upgrade it a litle to use in regularity rallies here in Portugal.

Since I can't spend too much money I' m thinking to swap the engine.

Do anyone knows if the 1.1 (from the 128) or even the 1.3 plus the 5 speed gearbox from a Lancia Delta is a bolt on swap?
And if it isn't, is it a dificult task?

Kind regards
Carlos Vaz
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: guy moerenhout May 20, 2007, 07:01:17 PM
Fit it complete with gearbox and with some heavy nights it will be possible
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: carlosvaz75 May 20, 2007, 07:17:13 PM
Thanks.

This is good news...  Whit the 1.3 from a Lancia Delta I will have more than 70 hp stock and a bit more whith some tweeks... and I also like the ability to meke rpm from theese engines...
Do you know any of thesse conversions?

Kind regards

Carlos Vaz
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: marin December 21, 2007, 11:10:09 AM
whit 1580ccm from fiat tipo you have 90 hp stock
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: alambic January 28, 2008, 08:50:45 PM
Gentlemen,
I raced in 1979 with a 127 group 2 which had been used in the french "rallycross" championship .
It was a very amazing car, very easy to drive .
I entered a rally in La Rochelle and we were 3rd of the class 1300cc of the group 2 ( together with a lot of Simca 1000 Rally 2 ) .
I recovered a photo, I try to enclose
Best regards
: Re: 1050 127 fiat
: guy moerenhout January 28, 2008, 09:45:37 PM
its a petty that you dont have it anymore otherwise it was standing good in my museum.It look like one off the 127 abarth cars ,see painting and wheels