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Offline Rocky

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Front suspension
« on: May 07, 2007, 11:12:10 AM »
Hi everybody,

my next step in restauration project is to make front suspension with front axle. I have found some pictures on site and I was wondering:

- does anybody knows dimensions of front axle with uniballs? I would like to build one. Here is the pic:

http://www.abarth-gmr.be/new/gallery.php?arh=04_05&idp=7 [nofollow]

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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2007, 10:24:56 AM »
Is it possible that nobody knows anything about it??? I will have to improvise and that takes much more time and money..

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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2007, 09:22:17 PM »
hallo Rocky ,sometimes you must do it yourself our you must buy it.This was a special one off .You can copy it from forum but you need to make it yourself .Almost all cars are different so make it on a jigg our direct on your car
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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2007, 10:32:51 PM »
Guy THANKS A LOT,

I wanted to be sure that I am not doing some things twice :-) ! Could You give any comment on the handling of the car with that kind of susspension and if it is not a problem for you, could you compare variants of susspension???

Thank you very much !!!

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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2007, 11:05:24 PM »
If you use your car on the road :dont do it  You wish to race Ok .Iff you make it reforce your body on inside to .Its to weak otherwise .
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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2007, 11:17:42 PM »
Guy,

Could you help me with the meening: reforce your body on inside???

Cheers!

p.s. your work is amazing. Well done

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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2007, 11:29:18 PM »
thanks ,you must make the two chassis arms stronger ,also where brakepedals are like in a real abarth corsa .Also make a sort of strut bare from right to left fitting off top shocks (body parts .On the moment the car is stronger on front .Also make a plate(welded ) on the fitting left right behind the triangels
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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2007, 08:47:44 PM »
Thank you on advice!!! And could you suggest me coilovers and springs to put on that home-made axle?

Cheers

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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2007, 10:32:14 AM »
YES
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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2007, 02:10:05 AM »
HI Rocky,

NO need to re-invent the front suspension.  If you go to www.scuderiatopolino.com,  and look on the parts page, you will find lots of parts for this car.  Under the suspension section is a complete independent suspension arrangement (pressed metal) with unibals.  Also there you will find complete 20 position adjustable coilover shocks.

You can also send an email to info@scuderiatopolino.com if you have any other questions.


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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2007, 10:13:22 PM »
Thanks Paul ! I will check that.

I don't want anybody to understand me wrong, but my opinion is that I could make my own and that does not cost that much in Serbia. I will consider coilovers for sure, but hardly anything else.

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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2007, 05:37:26 PM »
Rocky,

I am afraid you have come up against one of the ground rules of free enterprise.  If I spend the time and the money to fully document, prototype and produce an item, it would make little sense to "give away" all of this work.  After all, those of us who make out living from the design and production of parts must make a profit on what we do, or it simply is not worth doing it.

Many of us publish a great deal on the internet about what we do and provide free advice, but giving away design information is probably asking too much.

I can only tell you about a man who went to his mechanic because he had a problem with this car.  He asked the mechanic if he could tell him what was wrong with the car?  Sure his mechanic said, I know what is wrong with your car.  But if you want to know, you will have to pay me $50.  The owner said "Why should I pay you to tell me what is wrong with my car, you have not done anything?".  Yes, I know the mechanic said, but you have to pay me for my knowledge, otherwise if I relll you what is wrong and you can simply go home and fix it your self or have someone else do the job, and I will not make any money.  KNOWLEDGE HAS VA:LUE, and sometimes there is no alternative but to pay for it.  Altermatively, you can spend the time (which is also worth something) to develop your own knowledge.

My policy has always been to provide as much assistance to my customers as I can when they buy my products.

Good luck,

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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2007, 01:34:16 AM »
Hi Paul,

I realy understand you!!! You have wright. Knowladge costs!!! I my self think like you do and I would like not to spend time making that part, but just to pay it and to set it up.

But please, if you consider that in Serbia I am earning 330 euros/month with my University diploma and costs of leaving are almost like in Austria (I have spent half year there), you will maybe understand me. You all know how the filling is bad when you can not afford something, but try to imagine how it is, when you can not afford hardly anything that is original? AND WE ALL LOVE FIAT 600.

Prices on internet are not high for you guys, who live in EU. With my knowladge and job that I am doing in Serbia, I would earn much much much much more in EU and those prices would be a joke for me.

Sorry if I have wrote something inappropriate, but that is just hard filling from 24 year old man, who adors Fiat 600.

Cheers everybody.

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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2007, 04:18:23 PM »
Hello Rocky,

Good luck with your project. 

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Re: Front suspension
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2007, 04:20:03 AM »
Rocky,

This is the front suspension on the car I should be receiving next week.  The owner told me it was a limited series of 4-5 some friends and racers made for their cars.

Have you considered using the reversed leaf spring you can buy?  Scorpione Abarth Parts in the Netherlands sells one for 185 Euros:
BI 0102     LEAFSPRING     reverse eye     5 cm lower      €       185,00
http://www.scorpioneabarthparts.nl/index2.htm

Jim